The Ultimate Fanboy Battle Thread!

[Nitrus]

Alright, this orta drive some heated discussion.... post up why your console is the best, and then watch it get stomped all over by the PS3. :D

NO FLAMING! KEEP IT CLEAN!

To start off, im gonna place my thoughts on each console...

360

Unreliable console, looks fugly, and breaks on a regular basis, not worth the paper used to print the manual. A lot of the exclusive games suck aswell, they really suck.

Wii

Stupid console, doesnt have any multimedia value at all, no CD/DVD playback... no good use of storage media, the thing sucks. It has a stupid gimmicky controller, and the graphics and gameplay of most of the games suck. Ive never got bored of a console so quickly.

PS3

Awesome machine, reliable, with a solid set of features and powerful hardware, Blu-ray player inbuilt, with CD/DVD playback, and upscaling of DVD/PS1/PS2. Games look incredible, and with 50gb to play with, its easy to knock out an awesome game, as opposed to using 4.7gb on a bog standard DVD, 8gb tops.

[-CJJB-]

my thoughts on the 360....
Affordable,
good install base
,lots and lots of good games including exclusives,
DVD playback
,HD-DVD is your own choice (its not forced on you)
xbox live and all thats functionallity,
graphics are ace
,wireless controllers
,looks the sex.
I also like the way you can use it as a media center if you hook it up to your computer.

wii
gimmicky
poor graphics
crap controls
theres like 2 games worth getting?
over priced for what it is
**** all for online
for babys
no long term life i.e. cannot grow with time

PS3
too rich for my blood
no games worth getting
online is wack
blu-ray is forced on you
big,bulky and ugly
controllers are ghey
too japanesse
whats an exclusive game?

Thats my opinions on the consoles :D

[F34R]

Xbox 360 Elite

HDMI Cable included
120GB HDD - TWICE the size of the PS3 HDD.
Ethernet included
Rumble included
Highly affordable
great games
Reliable system (hasn't shown any signs of ANY problems)
Xbox Live - even works fine with dial-up for something lol
DVD games are using DVD-9 media which is 8.5GB storage capacity, not 4.7GB as stated in an above post. Despite the smaller size storage capacity vs. the PS3, the Xbox 360 has provided equally impressive graphics in games, with a much larger library since the launch.


OR I could buy the "awesome game" machine that is the PS3, and sit and wait for good games to eventually come out. I guess the PS3 can be considered the cheapest Blu-Ray player on the market, but at $600, cheapest doesn't always translate into affordable.

[Nitrus]

Xbox 360 Elite
120GB HDD - TWICE the size of the PS3 HDD.
Rumble included
Xbox Live - even works fine with dial-up for something lol
DVD games are using DVD-9 media which is 8.5GB storage capacity, not 4.7GB as stated in an above post. Despite the smaller size storage capacity vs. the PS3, the Xbox 360 has provided equally impressive graphics in games, with a much larger library since the launch.Lets address ^these^ shall we?

120gb HDD is way more expensive for what it is, plus I can pay less for a 120gb for my PS3 and upgrade it.

Rumble imo isnt needed, but thats personal preference.

Live costs a lot, and while its a great online system, I just dont like it. The PS alternative is free, and will eventually advance.

I did state that it could have 8gb. The 360 using DVD's instead of HD discs, has already given game developers problems with capacity. This will eventually be the downfall of the current 360, as the games advance, more and more stuff will have to be cut out of the games.

[Joseph]

I am sure if a game developer really needed more room they could do something with downloadable content and store the extra part of the game on the hard drive.

[F34R]

[/LIST]Lets address ^these^ shall we?

120gb HDD is way more expensive for what it is, plus I can pay less for a 120gb for my PS3 and upgrade it.

Rumble imo isnt needed, but thats personal preference.

Live costs a lot, and while its a great online system, I just dont like it. The PS alternative is free, and will eventually advance.

I did state that it could have 8gb. The 360 using DVD's instead of HD discs, has already given game developers problems with capacity. This will eventually be the downfall of the current 360, as the games advance, more and more stuff will have to be cut out of the games.

The 120GB HDD is FREE with the Elite, which is what my entire post was about. Include the average price of a HDMI cable, $15-$30 if you wanna be cheap, and you certainly have a huge bargain with the Elite.

There have been just as many complaints on the Internet that rumble wasn't included, as there are complaints of failing 360s. In that respect, it seems like it is a HUGE deal.

As far as Live costs. Since the PS3 really hasn't done anything with the on-line aspect of their console. Also, when developers start charging consumers for on-line play, which WILL happen, how free does the PSN crap look then ?

Stating 8GB tops, doesn't mean 8.5GB. There is a LOT of content that can be squeezed into the other 500MB of space.

[Nitrus]

Stating 8GB tops, doesn't mean 8.5GB. There is a LOT of content that can be squeezed into the other 500MB of space.

But like said, this is still a problem for developers, and why I think it will end in the downfall of 360. Not enough space for the games, as they get more and more advanced.

[F34R]

Which developers ? I've only seen one "report" that might hint that the developer was going to have to work a little harder to get the game out on the 360. I believe that was Rockstar. I'm not too sure about it, but since you seem to be, maybe you can post a link to all these developers that won't be making games for the 360 because of the storage limit.

[matt_don]

360

Too many problems.
If I bought one, I'd have to buy a wireless adaptor (£60), LIVE (£40), Rechargable Battery thing (£20+/-) and the HD-DVD drive (£120) since I like watching movies, so I might as well go HD.
Noisier than a tractor.
Controllers too bulky.
Games dont interest me (I hate Halo)

Wii

Piece of crap.

PS3

Best console ever made.
HDMI connection (not available on the 360, and the Elite isnt out here with pre-orders not being taken yet, so dont say 'ooooh you can buy an elite if you want HDMI)
Bigger HDD (Mine has 100Gb)
Card reader for easy multimedia options
Free online (and its not THAT bad. My motto is, dont expect a lot and you wont be disappointed. Its free, so dont expect loads.)
Motion sensitivity that isnt actually a gimmick.
Bluetooth (might come in useful someday lol)
Browser = Better than Wii's, and the 360 doesnt even have one; and when/if it does, M$ will probably charge the gamers for it.
Rechargable battery built into the controller so theres no need to keep buying AA batteries or going to buy a battery pack and charger for it.
Any bluetooh/usb headset can be used. Same with keyboards and mice.
Printer connectivity.
DVD/PS2 and 2 upscaler.
Looks stylish; everyone knows glossy black is the latest style for gadgets and TV's. It matches my glossy black 1080p TV perfectly :D

[Lethal]

Ok time to make you guys look like sissies.

XBOX 360

Most modder user friendly console to ever grace the market! Its only ugly until you make it your own.
Largest supply of games of any next gen console
Cheap $50 A YEAR!!!!!!!! for online and a wonderful marketplace.
Poor stock cooling
Best controller of any console
Lacks built in wifi and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray
Cheaper than the PS3 with better games

PS3

Plays Blu-Ray movies and upscales DVDs
Nice bluetooth features
Very poor PSN Store
Very poor XMB features
Free online service, but there isnt much of it.
Only a handful of worthy games.....
Not modder friendly at all
PS3 owners eagerly wait for Thursdays in hope that the PS3 feels as if it was worth the price.
UK Store.....lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What can I say? Why even call it a store?


Wii

Fun party game system
More crappy games than any next gen system
Wii mote isnt very precise making games very frustrating
FPS games dont belong on the Wii
No DVD playback
Wheres the online play that was promised?
Its a Gamecube with a new controller.
Well priced making this the best party console ever made
Outstanding VC titles in the store. Best of any console.
Max resolution is 480p?



Nitrus - You say the PS3 is awesome but whats awesome about it? There are really only 2 games that show any kind of great graphics. Almost all games that are on both the 360 and PS3 play better on the 360. The PS3 suffers from severe framerate drops in most games for some reason. Plus you cant check messages while in a game nor can you private chate while in a game. The XMB is far behind the PSP and its the same damn XMB layout.

[matt_don]

PS3
Very poor XMB features

Explain? It covers everything you could need from a console :S

[Lethal]

Explain? It covers everything you could need from a console :S


Cant change wallpaper
Cant access the XMB while in a game
Cant play music while in a game
Cant group chat
Cant private chat while in a game
Cant check messages while in a game


I could go on....

[Joseph]

Lethal just owned the PS3. It is hard for the PS3 to be better then the 360 with titles just as Gears of War the Halo trilogy. I mean Halo is one of the best games ever if not the best fps. Only thing coming near it would be 007.

[Hybrid]

Xbox 360 (Premium)

May be unreliable
Huge power supply with bulky cords
Noisy
Great online service with different plans suited for different people
Achievement system is pretty well made
Controller is the best with no complex sensor system that screw up the experience
No high-definition format playback, must purchase individually for $200
Easy to use dashboard interface
Great games with optional downloads and add-ons
Graphics and performance are greatPlaystation 3 (60GB)

May be expencive to some, but considering manufacturing costs, it's not
Horrible online play
Dashboard interface is confusing
No good games yet
Controller with sensor system is terrible
Great Blu-Ray disc player with 1080p native playback
Quiet
No bulky power supply
Can download mini-games and games off the store
Integrated Wi-Fi Wii

N/A, never played it or researched it much.

Based on your signature Nitrus, if you haven't updated it, it seems like you own only 2 games? And you say "some great games"?

[Hanzo]

All next-gen consoles suck with the acception of the PS2/Sega Dreamcast.

For me it all about quality ports and game play. Not graphics.

I'll just sit back and watch the ignorant arguements.

*sigh*

[matt_don]

Lethal just owned the PS3. It is hard for the PS3 to be better then the 360 with titles just as Gears of War the Halo trilogy. I mean Halo is one of the best games ever if not the best fps. Only thing coming near it would be 007.

What? Never heard of Quake, Counter Strike or Unreal Tournament? 007 is an insult to those games.



Dashboard interface is confusing

Its not confusing.. Settings, Pictures, Videos, Games, then everything Internet related goes at the end..

[Hybrid]

Selecting a main catagory, then moving down 1 by 1 to find the thing you need I think is a hassle.

[FILTHY J NASTY]

Its soo funny, you can actually see what console everyone has by there post except lethal cuz there all equaly bad and good lol


Well the only system i have played is the wii and x360..


XBOX 360:

Great games
Great Live Play
Easy to mod =] lol
Dvd drive is beastly loud
Power brick is big
Graphic are amazing
And just the dashboard is so easy and convient
And the x360 controller was rated i think number one out of every system.


Wii:
Fun at first
no games really
gets boering extremely fast
not a hardcore video game system

[Joseph]

Counter strike is a pc game, them port to xbox sucked. Unreal is also a pc game... I am talking about consoles only seeing as this is a console war not video game war. I am also pretty sure Quake is mainly for the pc.

[Lethal]

I am also pretty sure Quake is mainly for the pc.

Hes probably talking about Quake 4 and the soon to be released Quake 3 Arena for the 360.

[Joseph]

Ya, but Halo still owns them.

[Ll4MMA]

Wii has Mario and Zelda ,Xbox has Halo and Gears, WTF does PS3 have? Sure, they have resistance but what else? 600$ isnt exactly the best price either, with the Wii you get what you pay for and same for the 360, the PS3 is all bells and whistles, sure it has a blu-ray player but how many of you can honestly you use it more than the actual gaming system "Inside" the Blu-Ray play. Sure Blu-Ray can hold more and whatever, but has it really been used? All the PS3 games are equal or lesser to the 360, now the Wii, I'm not even gonna go there.

[steveie]

ok ill try to be as unbiased as i can


360


POS hardware i mean come on this must be by far the most un realiable system ever made its pathetic i have a 14 year old SNES in the loft that still works fine do you think my 360 will work in 14 years time? no chance.



Has a good selection of great games such as gears,forza,crackdown,viva pinata, GH2 theres pretty much a solid game for evrey genre



Online aspect is just amazing. You truly will not appreciate xbox LIVE if you have ever used it. I know PSN is free and sony boys ram it into your faces but realy i think around 80% of LIVE users will say its way way way worth the money to use.



No built in WI-Fi is just stupid. NOt even the eleite has it stupid move.



Dual layer DVD is not going to be good enough when new types of games are going to be made. DVD is cheaper to produce then blu-ray but yet 360 games and PS3 games cost the same amount. So if DVD is cheaper why not pass that on to the customer?



The controller is fantastic. Anyone that has used it for a good amount of time can tell you that. It fits so well in your hands and those triggers work great. The rumble feedback is superb in games such as forza when you hit the rumble pads



Stupid hard drive prices if you want to buy a new one. Also that nice new 20GB HDD you just purchased only has 13GB of storage :confused:



Wii


Know i was all for wii before it came out when the rumours were that the gfx would match 360. I know games are not about graphics but my god play gears on the 360 then go look at the trailer for man hunt 2. Kinda feels like a de-evolution



Cheap price is great



Awful software at this moment in time the only good developer for the wii are Nintendo FACT! no 3rd party games have got the controller configuration working well. Spiderman 3 and red steel for example



No online play to speak off



All this waving your arms around is cool at first but when i was playing zedla after an hour i wished i was playing it on the gamecube and could just press the damn A button instead of looking like a flid



PS3



Its a powerhouse love the technolgy there trying to push and can only help developers step up their game



Like the fact you can use your own hard drives and use Linux will be useful in the future for homebrew



Sixaxis doesnt look great now but i think there may be a few games that will make it work well
.


Price is just too high for people who want it as a gaming machine in my opnion



Dont like that XMB menu and the lack of uisng it ingame



PSN looks like a poor slowly loading webpage imo



Online play with no talking to freinds and other features the 360 can do so much better



Blu ray will be good in a few years im sure of it.


Home looks good



Not very good games right at this moment at time exlusive games are just getting smaller and smaller righ


My summary is the 360 pretty much can do evreything the PS3 can do in gaming terms and do them better and even more features. Thats not to say the PS3 will not get better FW upgrades becuase it will.

[Lethal]

ok ill try to be as unbiased as i can


360

[LIST]
POS hardware .


The hardware on the 360 is far from a POS. The 360 has a much superior graphics card than that of the PS3s 7800. The only thing hurting the 360 is the poor stock cooling. You need to change your post to POS cooling.

[steveie]

The hardware on the 360 is far from a POS. The 360 has a much superior graphics card than that of the PS3s 7800. The only thing hurting the 360 is the poor stock cooling. You need to change your post to POS cooling.


it fails way too much and not just down to heating. The actualy components are pretty good and up to date but the whole thing collectivley just fails to much for my liking feels like im playing a ticking time bomb AND NO MY 360 IS NOT STOCK

[Lethal]

it fails way too much and not just down to heating. The actualy components are pretty good and up to date but the whole thing collectivley just fails to much for my liking feels like im playing a ticking time bomb AND NO MY 360 IS NOT STOCK

You do realize that hardware failure is caused by heat right? That is the one and only problem with this system. 99% are hardware issues caused by heat.

[sum182oftheyear]

[Playstation 3 (60GB)
[LIST]
Controller with sensor system is terrible


Are you kidding? The motion sensing on that controller is amazing, it's perfectly pin points your moves and there is almost no delay.


Alright, this orta drive some heated discussion.... post up why your console is the best, and then watch it get stomped all over by the PS3. :D

NO FLAMING! KEEP IT CLEAN!

To start off, im gonna place my thoughts on each console...

360

Unreliable console, looks fugly, and breaks on a regular basis, not worth the paper used to print the manual. A lot of the exclusive games suck aswell, they really suck.

Wii

Stupid console, doesnt have any multimedia value at all, no CD/DVD playback... no good use of storage media, the thing sucks. It has a stupid gimmicky controller, and the graphics and gameplay of most of the games suck. Ive never got bored of a console so quickly.

PS3

Awesome machine, reliable, with a solid set of features and powerful hardware, Blu-ray player inbuilt, with CD/DVD playback, and upscaling of DVD/PS1/PS2. Games look incredible, and with 50gb to play with, its easy to knock out an awesome game, as opposed to using 4.7gb on a bog standard DVD, 8gb tops.

Wow, that wasn't biased at all..

[matt_don]

Well, it is a 'fanboy battle', everyone knew it wasnt going to be unbiased before they even read the 1st post :D

[sum182oftheyear]

That's true lol

My opinions:
Xbox 360
-Best Looking Of The Consoles
-Some Pretty Nifty Games
-Horrible stability
-Best Online Of All The Consoles
-Amazing Controller, best of all three consoles

Wii
-Pretty much crap
-Was fun for the first 10 minutes
-Really pretty

PS3
-Fat And Ugly
-Crappy Games
-Really Shiny, Good as Mirror/Paper Weight

[steveie]

You do realize that hardware failure is caused by heat right? That is the one and only problem with this system. 99% are hardware issues caused by heat.


heat is the biggest problem but that stat you made up is just stupid. ASK sum hes had a DVD drive problem. Those x clamps also warp the board to much. Ive had a piece of sticker on my heatsink 1st console and also that onew failed from graphical glitches

[xTactic]

360: Definitely the 2nd [heh] best system out there.

Great graphics
Fairly good games
Nice looking machine
Very sleek blade interface, could be improved upon though.
X-Box live... NISM?
MASSIVE power block
Heavy
Fail prone to bad cooling
It's Microsuck.

PS3: It's... PS2 with a PSP interface, and pretty graphics. That's... it
The controller is the same thing, and the motion control is unintuitive and annoying to control.
Graphics are over saturated with colours; they look either too dark or too light.
The interface sucked on the PSP. It hasn't changed. Too much real estate on the screen.
It's HUGE
A lot of storage for nothing...
A good Blu-Ray player
VERY unaesthetic design, ugly and oddly shaped.
Menu screen completely unaccessible from FAR too many places
Home looks incredible
PSN can't compare to XBox Live

Wii: Intuitive, adventurous, fun, and non-stop action.

Awesome intuitive and fun channels that use the controller well.
Great controls, controller is NOT a gimmick.
New territory for gamers that want something new
Mature games coming in a far larger populous than other Nintendo consoles
Controllers are pixel perfect accurate and experience no delay on screen
Menu screen accessible from almost anywhere, and it's intuitive with very easy to use design.
Virtual Console is awesome, playing the classics is as fun as it was when they were released
Some flopped games, but fault of the developers, not the console. Now, people are seeing the extreme revenue the console can bring and are putting far more effort into their titles, such as Ubisoft whom actually apologized for releasing Far Cry and other bad games on Wii, and said they will improve their games rather than trying for a quick buck.
It's popularity means tonnes of support from developers
Graphics are sub par at best in most 3rd party games.
Awesome web features. WiiConnect24 is awesome, the email feature is great, Everybody votes is just fun, even if it's pointless. It helps you see how far you are from the popular opinion on things, and it's the simple questions that are more accurate because everyone can answer them. Weather Channel and News Channel's are both very accurate. The Photo Channel is great for organizing photos, and has some very fun tools that you can fool around with. Plus, with great slide show capabilities, it makes for a great display of photos from a trip or vacation. The Internet Channel is fast, easy to use and has many great functions such as watching YouTube videos and playing online games on the fly. Very fast functionality as well.
Absolutely gorgeous menu and system design, very 'Apple Inspired.'
Friend Codes are lame; but it has been confirmed that it is open for developers; meaning developers can have their own form of online [Like Madden has a lobby system and how Elebits lets you trade online without friend codes] This means that if there is any bad online support it's fault of the developers. Nintendo has left the decision up to them.

Obviously, I favor Wii. It's my kind of console, as I'm a huge fan of Nintendo's form of gaming. If I were to choose any console from past or current that I was the most excited for it'd be the Sega Dreamcast and Saturn. They were both amazingly underrated consoles, and this makes me happy that Wii is getting the attention it deserves. Hope that wasn't too long.

-X

[Hanzo]

God I'm enjoying this thread so much... :lol:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6987/violineq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Nitrus]

I would just like to point out that I am clutching at straws with a lot of my comments to drive discussion, and it worked.

4 pages in a day. wow.


Graphics are over saturated with colours; they look either too dark or too light.

No, thats just your TV and PS3 not setup properly.
It's HUGE

And thats a problem because you want to take with you on the train? or what?
A lot of storage for nothing...

Nothing? How about Music, Pictures and Video, not too mention Game demos, full games and extra content.
Menu screen completely unaccessible from FAR too many places

In-Game is the only time you cant access the XMB, and THAT wasnt available on 360 from launch.

[matt_don]

360: Definitely the 2nd [heh] best system out there.

PS3: It's... PS2 with a PSP interface, and pretty graphics. That's... it

You... dont know... what... your talking about.

The PS3 is a PS2 with the PSP interface and pretty graphics. Then you complain about the graphics later on.
And what do you think the 360 is? A BRAND NEW console? No. Its an original Xbox in a different chassis, prettier graphics and a larger hard drive.
At least with the PS3, it added a hard drive, added a marketplace, card reader, wireless internet, bluetooth etc which the PS2 didnt have, so technically, its more of a BRAND NEW console than the 360 is, yet you dont seem to mention that part.

[Nitrus]

yet you dont seem to mention that part.

Thats because he likes the 360 lol.

Heres a fact:

The PS3 sold more units in its first month after launch than the 360 did, and the 360 is now a storming success, ergo, the PS3 WILL be more of a success, once its sorted itself out.

[-CJJB-]

Guys i thought this was supposed to be a fanboy thread?
I could say lots of good things about the wii and ps3 but since i own a 360 i have to defend it.

I think a year from now everyone will have forgotten the wii,the ps3 price will have hopefully dropped and people will own either a 360,ps3 or both.

[Nitrus]

The majority of Wii owners have another next-gen console, it is not seen as a console, but as something you pull out of the cupboard every year when your mates come round, and you want to fling your arms about playing sport with your friends, instead of going outside and doing it for real...

[xTactic]

I would just like to point out that I am clutching at straws with a lot of my comments to drive discussion, and it worked.

4 pages in a day. wow.

Every single PS3 screenshot, every single time I've played one, and every TV I've ever seen one on has saturated colours. Compare them with the 360. The problem lies in Blu-Ray, the movies do the same thing.

The PS3 being huge makes it inconvenient. You can't place it in many areas because of it's massive size. Plus, it generates a lot of heat.

For the space, it's pointless. You don't need that much, who even puts any of that on their PS3 when they have a computer nearby? It does the same thing... Or they could buy a snazzy MP3 player with video.

It may only be unaccessible from in-game, but that's so inconvenient it's not even funny. That's one of the most important places it should be. And it should automatically save where you are or pause the game immediately.

You... dont know... what... your talking about.

The PS3 is a PS2 with the PSP interface and pretty graphics. Then you complain about the graphics later on.
And what do you think the 360 is? A BRAND NEW console? No. Its an original Xbox in a different chassis, prettier graphics and a larger hard drive.
At least with the PS3, it added a hard drive, added a marketplace, card reader, wireless internet, bluetooth etc which the PS2 didnt have, so technically, its more of a BRAND NEW console than the 360 is, yet you dont seem to mention that part.

See. I do know what I'm talking about. The graphics are pretty when compared to last gen. The 360's are prettier. Just because I said it has good graphics doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with them. The 360 IS more of a brand new console than the PS3. The PS3 took far more elements from past consoles than the 360 did, and the 360 interface isn't just a carbon copy of what was already on another console.

[Nitrus]

Every single PS3 screenshot, every single time I've played one, and every TV I've ever seen one on has saturated colours.

You need your eyes testing, or you need to re-read the definition of saturated. Your probably just too used to watching washed out colours on the Wii.

Plus, it generates a lot of heat.

Dont get me started on heat, proven fact, 360 generates more heat then the PS3 whilst commiting to everyday activities. END OF.!


The 360's are prettier.

Wrong again, this time im being reasonable, there isnt much difference, if any between graphics on the 360 and ps3.



Ive annotated your post, to help you in future... :D

[Hybrid]

Generates more heat but uses less power...which means the 360 cooling sucks.

PS3, less heat with higher power use...which is good

[FILTHY J NASTY]

All the 360 needs is a little help with the fans and its good, when it comes to cooling just replacing the fans or adding fans make all the difference..

[Joseph]

I like all three systems. I will be buying a ps3 though only for blu ray, linux, and kingdom hearts,socom. The Wii I bought for all the classic fun mario games such as mario party and soon super smash brawl. The 360 is really my favorite because I only play games for the most part that are fps and have extremely good and competetive multiplayer online games such as halo and gears. For the most part I agree with Hanzo. I enjoy playing old games on mame, snes, nes dreamcast, neo geo, and other emulators more then my next gen consoles. I just finished downloading every ntsc us rom for all the old systems. :-)

[-CJJB-]

If you could run liniux on the ps3 wouldn't that mean it would be so easy to run games you burnt onto a blu-ray dsk?

I liked the first kingdom hearts but the 2nd one was crap IMO

[xTactic]

Every single PS3 screenshot, every single time I've played one, and every TV I've ever seen one on has saturated colours.

You need your eyes testing, or you need to re-read the definition of saturated. Your probably just too used to watching washed out colours on the Wii.

No, Mr. Braindead, look at them, you just can't see the saturation because your eyes have been glazed over by the PS3's makeup mirror of a console. [That's all it's worth :P]

Plus, it generates a lot of heat.

Dont get me started on heat, proven fact, 360 generates more heat then the PS3 whilst commiting to everyday activities. END OF.!

I said that in my argument, read it. I said something to the effect of the 360 being prone to failure from heat.


The 360's are prettier.

Wrong again, this time im being reasonable, there isnt much difference, if any between graphics on the 360 and ps3.

Wrong again, you are. PS3 has saturated colours, as I've said.


The PS3 is the worst console this generation, it's clear and the public already thinks so.

[Krayzie]

Xbox 360

Great games
Xbox Live is awsome!
Great comfortable controllers
Loud
Looks pretty good
Great selection of downloadable content and game add ons
Customisable factplates/full cases
So modder friendlyPS3

Nice looking console
Love the idea of the controllers and the look of the controllers
Some good games
Great blue ray player
Overpriced
Cool dashboard
It's disapointing that you can't private chat ect while in a gameWii

Great fun
Wii Sports is great and so much fun with you family and friends
Love the controllers
Crappy standard memory but expandable
Some good games but some not so good ones
Nice looking console

[Nitrus]

Cool dashboard

ITS NOT A DASHBOARD!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR!

[matt_don]

If you could run liniux on the ps3 wouldn't that mean it would be so easy to run games you burnt onto a blu-ray dsk?


I dont know about that, but the price of a blu-ray writer alone could supply you with legit games for a year :P

[Krayzie]

ITS NOT A DASHBOARD!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR!

Sorry man I forgot it's a XMB.

[Hybrid]

ITS NOT A DASHBOARD!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR!

Looks like we hear dashboard more than XMB :lol:

[xTactic]

ITS NOT A DASHBOARD!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRR!

It's the SAME FREAKING THING calm the hell down! The Xross Media Bar or whatever does the same damn thing.

[Lethal]

The PS3 is the worst console this generation, it's clear and the public already thinks so.


Yet it is Sonys fastest selling console to date.......

[vamosrafa]

I prefer the PS3's XMB to the 360 Dashboard!

[xTactic]

Yet it is Sonys fastest selling console to date.......
Yeah, at launch, and that's not saying much.

[matt_don]

Yeah, at launch, and that's not saying much.

Actually it is. The PS2 is the most popular console ever made (I think), and it had a slower start than the PS3. So, if you look at it like that, it means the PS3 will be even more popular than PS2.

[TBGixxer]

I had a PS2 and it got stolen. I felt like I was wasting my money buying another PS2 so I got an xbox. Never felt like touching a Sony again. 'Nuff proof for me that the 360 rocks! In fact, the only time I played a PS3 I felt lonely b/c it doesn't have that great "connected" feeling that the 360 offers with your friends and the marketplace.

[xTactic]

Actually it is. The PS2 is the most popular console ever made (I think), and it had a slower start than the PS3. So, if you look at it like that, it means the PS3 will be even more popular than PS2.

No it doesn't, you can't base it off what's happened in the past, PS2s were HUGE by Christmas, and everone wanted them. It's start was slower because people didn't know much about it, but the PS3 doesn't really have anything new...

[matt_don]

No it doesn't, you can't base it off what's happened in the past, PS2s were HUGE by Christmas, and everone wanted them. It's start was slower because people didn't know much about it, but the PS3 doesn't really have anything new...

OMG. You said that before and I corrected you, how many more times do I have to say that the PS3 is basically a whole new console. The PS2 didnt have anything new really, all it had was better graphics than the PS1.
PS3 has a hard drive, wifi, bluetooth, blu-ray player, media card slots and for the first time in a Playstation console (except PSP) it has a XMB. So of course it has new stuff.

[xTactic]

OMG. You said that before and I corrected you, how many more times do I have to say that the PS3 is basically a whole new console. The PS2 didnt have anything new really, all it had was better graphics than the PS1.
PS3 has a hard drive, wifi, bluetooth, blu-ray player, media card slots and for the first time in a Playstation console (except PSP) it has a XMB. So of course it has new stuff.

None of what you mentioned is going to affect the consumer market. PS3 is nothing new, Xbox has had it for a year now.

[Lethal]

Yeah, at launch, and that's not saying much.

Not saying much? You go add the money up and tell me again thats not saying much lol.

PS3 hardware is obviously better than the 360. That goes without question. Its only a matter time before the developers open up the power the PS3 has to offer. And I wont even mention the PS Home that will destroy the achievements that the 360 has to offer. You are clearly a M$ fanboy and thats fine. Just sucks that your arrogance may keep you from enjoying one terrifice console in the future.

[FILTHY J NASTY]

Im sorry i dont think ps home will cruss the 360..


Im sorry from what i have read about it will be a new experience, but c'mon that wont make it crush the 360..


I am in no way a fan boy, im just saying that, when sony gets its game togeather with a price adjusment and some decent games, it will be worth considering..

[Hybrid]

Playstation Home is the virtual world right? If that works out, it'll be pretty amazing...but it'll have to be a perfect world though, there will probably be some major glitches and people acting just weird on there, lol. It's very possible for when Playstation has come out with some good games that it will surpass the Xbox 360 and/or Wii in consumer ratings and sales, but now they are just working their way up...it'll either be a success or it'll make more people unhappy. Blu-Ray also makes people buy a Playstation 3 since it's winning, but not won close at all the high-definition disc format which gives people some reassurance of what they are buying. The only thing Playstation is missing is good games and a better online service. Infact, lol, I've read that a guy tried to find a match and there were no games hosted.

They also probably want to change their commercials, but that's just me :lol:

[xTactic]

Not saying much? You go add the money up and tell me again thats not saying much lol.

PS3 hardware is obviously better than the 360. That goes without question. Its only a matter time before the developers open up the power the PS3 has to offer. And I wont even mention the PS Home that will destroy the achievements that the 360 has to offer. You are clearly a M$ fanboy and thats fine. Just sucks that your arrogance may keep you from enjoying one terrifice console in the future.

I don't even own a 360 or an XBox, and I hate Microsoft Windows, I'm a Mac and Nintendo fan, I just don't mind 360. And I think PS2 was a great console.I just find PS3 a flop.

[Lethal]

I don't even own a 360 or an XBox, and I hate Microsoft Windows, I'm a Mac and Nintendo fan, I just don't mind 360. And I think PS2 was a great console.I just find PS3 a flop.

So you dont own an Xbox or a 360. Do you own a PS3? Im just trying to see if you are just getting all of your information from other fanboys. Do you have any hands on experience whatsoever?

None of what you mentioned is going to affect the consumer market. PS3 is nothing new, Xbox has had it for a year now.

Sooooo Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, Wifi, built in Hard drive, Internet browser, card slots arent going to affect the consumer market? Im sorry but I just cant listen to one more word you have to say lol. Xbox has had what for over a year now? Uhhhh the hard drive? Out of all I listed that is it bud.

[xTactic]

So you dont own an Xbox or a 360. Do you own a PS3? Im just trying to see if you are just getting all of your information from other fanboys. Do you have any hands on experience whatsoever?

I've had hands on with both, I've played a X-Box for a very long time, the PS3 not very long, but the only things I've stated that I've just heard have been confirmed.

[TBGixxer]

I have proof that the 360 is the top dog. Look at Lethal... he preaches the PS3 but 90% of his posts are 360-related. ;)

[Lethal]

I have proof that the 360 is the top dog. Look at Lethal... he preaches the PS3 but 90% of his posts are 360-related. ;)

Very good point!

[WOLF]

I don't have any of these but if I were to buy ONE I would buy the Wii because it's cheaper and it may sound stupid but I like the controler and how you can invite a bunch of friends over and let the good times roll.

[FILTHY J NASTY]

I have enough for a ps3 as we speak.. but i still can't take myself to spend 600$ on a console.. Ill stick with my xbox 360 intill the price gets lowerd.

[Krayzie]

I want a PS3 but I'm not going to pay 425 pounds for a games console, I'll wait until the PS3 gets cheaper and then I'll get my dad to get me one.

[matt_don]

They're £399 with a game now :D

[m1ndless]

My Opinions:

Xbox 360
- Not that unreliable, mine has never broken.
- Lots of Games
- Modder Friendly
- Sexy
- Better Controller
- Xbox Live - 13234234234234 Times beter than the PS3 online POS
- MSN messeging via Xbox Live

PS3
- Ugly
- Not Modder Friendly
- Poor Online Play
- Uncomfortable Controller
- Barley any Good Games

Wii

- Very Unique System
- Fun when you have friends over
- Gets boring after too much play
- Family Friendly

To me, the 360 and Ps3 both have their advantages, but when you add the 360 Elite in to this battle, it owns all systems.

[Nitrus]

My Opinions:

Xbox 360
- Sexy - ARE YOU SERIOUS?
- Better Controller - Debatable
- MSN messeging via Xbox Live - I use a PC, like normal people.

PS3
- Ugly - debatable
- Poor Online Play - Nope, online Resistance is amazing... its the scoring or lack of that sucks.
- Uncomfortable Controller - Feels great.. very ergonomic.
- Barley any Good Games - Resistance, Motorstorm, Virtua Tennis, Oblivion, need I go on?

Wii

- Very Unique System - Unique = boring in this statement. :P
- Fun when you have friends over - And ONLY then.


Ive annotated your post to express my feelings...

Enjoy!

[FILTHY J NASTY]

Ive annotated your post to express my feelings...

Enjoy!

Honestly do you need to trash everyones post with that, you have posted your sony fan boy like post, and everyone else is expressing theres, no need to crap on everyones oppions on the consoles..

[Hybrid]

This is the ultimate battle thread man.

[F34R]

To be honest.. it has been said that the ps3 owns the 360 because of the following:

Xbox360
Lack of HD format for games and movies
No built in wireless
BRD has more storage ability for games

Now.... let's take the price of the Elite

$479. Add the HD-DVD ($150-$199) and wireless ($80-$100). These prices depend on where you get the gear. You can get it for more, or less.

So.

Xbox 360 Elite G.E. (Elite Gamers Edition)
HDMI output
1080p output
HD-DVD for movie playback
Twice the HDD capacity than the PS3
Highly Customizable (system mods)
Built in rumble support
Superior online gaming support
Price: $709


We'll not discuss the controllers too much. It's so subjective, it's not worth debating. Some people like the PS3 controller, but I've even seen fanboys complain about the lack of rumble support in the pad.

Now, about the BRD vs. DVD-9 for games. Once the PS3 actually has better games due to the storage capacity of the BRD then that will be an issue. Until then, it's an obvious non-issue for a debate on whether it's actually beneficial or not. Very few games, and I mean FEW games for the PS3 actually surpass the storage limitations of the DVD-9 format. Of those games that are on both systems, can someone point out what is better about the PS3 game weighing in at 20GB, compared to the Xbox 360 version, that weighs in at just under 8GB ? Even with the lower amount of space for the game, the 360 games that are also released on the PS3 include Xbox Live! support.

The way I have the Elite configured above, it has everything the PS3 has, plus more HDD space, for approximately $110 more than the PS3. If you take the Premium package into account, you'll have it closer to the actual PS3 hardware price. I think the little extra money spent is definitely worth it.

That is my take on the two systems. I think I've backed everything very nicely, and it's not even up for debate. Everything I posted is 100% fact.

[m1ndless]

Ive annotated your post to express my feelings...

Enjoy!

You fanboys are sad. :lol:

What does the PS3 have that the Xbox 360 doesnt? Besides the gay motion controller? EXACTLY. You get alot more out of a xbox 360 than you ever would from a PS3.

[F34R]

Well, I'm not a 360 fanboy, nor any other system. If I had the money to spend on a PS3, and games, I'd drop the money in a heartbeat. I like the PSP, I had passed on the PS2 for an Xbox, but I'd really like to try the PS3 if there were any games on it that were actually better than what the 360 has to offer.

I don't mean one or two games either. I mean, the lineup would have to be so strong, that it would merit the purchase of a $600 system, vs. a free system. All the games I play are out on the 360, or will be soon. That's the main driving force behind my newly found 360 obsession.

[steveie]

Well, I'm not a 360 fanboy, nor any other system. If I had the money to spend on a PS3, and games, I'd drop the money in a heartbeat. I like the PSP, I had passed on the PS2 for an Xbox, but I'd really like to try the PS3 if there were any games on it that were actually better than what the 360 has to offer.

I don't mean one or two games either. I mean, the lineup would have to be so strong, that it would merit the purchase of a $600 system, vs. a free system. All the games I play are out on the 360, or will be soon. That's the main driving force behind my newly found 360 obsession.


thats how i see it too. PS3 is a great no scrap that amazing system and brillant tecnology but in the end i was in the market for a games console and the 360 at the time had better games and also still does even the future realses look
great

[matt_don]

You fanboys are sad. :lol:

What does the PS3 have that the Xbox 360 doesnt? Besides the gay motion controller? EXACTLY. You get alot more out of a xbox 360 than you ever would from a PS3.
This is like the 4th time I've had to say this in this thread:

- Gay motion controller
- Bluetooth
- Blu-Ray BUILT IN
- WiFi BUILT IN
- Card reader BUILT IN
- HDMI with every console, and shut up about the Elite cos it isnt out yet here with no date scheduled. I'm debating why Europeans should pick a PS3 over a 360 so theres no point taking an Elite into consideration.

And I emphasise the Built In cos it means you dont have to spend extra cash for it after you buy the console, which takes up valuable USB slots., and makes it seem more expensive. It put me off the 360 anyway when I was considering gettin one cos I was too impatient to wait on PS3. Luckily, I saw the light and waited. Never looked back either ;)

[F34R]

matt,

You are in the minority here, that's why the Elite is mentioned. It is an available option for the majority of the board members.

Also, there is no doubting the PS3 hardware is pretty amazing on the spec side of things. Why by a console today that has those specs, when it's gonna be 6 months to a year before you can even utilize these advancements over the 360 ? What on the PS3 side screams to me, "buy me, I'm a gaming machine that has what you want" ?

You can get a better gaming experience out of a 360 right now, plain and simple. Ask Lethal. He's completely objective. He has both consoles.

I'll compare the PS3 to having a Direct X 10 video card in a PC right now... it's just not worth the money when there isn't any benefit to having it.

[Hanzo]

I had both system at once (still have an Elite) and to be honest the PS3 is a piece of sh*t.

People who own it of course will try to do say/do anything to defend it.

The simple fact of it all is that everyone nowadays is a "nexgen kiddie".

"OMFG" LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS!!@#$%"

" HAHHA.. I JUST PWNED j00 ON XBOX LIVE@#$%^"

I guess only old folks like me tend to keep up with the old schoiol games and arcades because that's where its at for real men that enjoy video games.

I'm not saying what I do is for everyone, but at least stop argueing which system is better in order to hide its faults.

So take your Halo 3 and Metal Gear Solid 4 and shove them up your a$$e$.

Because a few execlusive games on a certain systems doesn't justify it being a worthy purchase.

I await your angry ignorant replies.....

<3

Uncle Hanzo

[F34R]

I have enjoyed my retro gaming days from the early 80's. I have also enjoyed how gaming has progressed through the years. I do agree that gaming today has become more about the money, and less about the quality of games put out. There are few games that I really like playing. However, I can always go back to MAME and play some of the best games ever created for some retro fun. I probably play Track and Field twice, or more, a day.

[sum182oftheyear]

Resistance, Motorstorm, Virtua Tennis, Oblivion, need I go on?
Please do.

[Joseph]

I love the old arcade games, in fact I just finished downloading the complete mame collection to date. I also ordered this right here.http://www.xgaming.com/img/tankstick_web/web/tankstick.jpg
You just can't beat the classics. Even though the Halo Trilogy comes awfully close.

[xTactic]

I had both system at once (still have an Elite) and to be honest the PS3 is a piece of sh*t.

People who own it of course will try to do say/do anything to defend it.

The simple fact of it all is that everyone nowadays is a "nexgen kiddie".

"OMFG" LOOK AT THE GRAPHICS!!@#$%"

" HAHHA.. I JUST PWNED j00 ON XBOX LIVE@#$%^"

I guess only old folks like me tend to keep up with the old schoiol games and arcades because that's where its at for real men that enjoy video games.

I'm not saying what I do is for everyone, but at least stop argueing which system is better in order to hide its faults.

So take your Halo 3 and Metal Gear Solid 4 and shove them up your a$$e$.

Because a few execlusive games on a certain systems doesn't justify it being a worthy purchase.

I await your angry ignorant replies.....

<3

Uncle Hanzo

You sound like a Nintendo fan! Or.. a me!

[WOLF]

The arcade beats all!!! Especially the ones with penny games! Me and a few friends (when I lived in Manitou Springs) would go down and play a old old arcade game similiar to fooseball but totaly made out of wood for 1 cent.

[steveie]

you americans are lucky there arent any arcade places in the UK apart from seaside resorts and there rubbish anyway. Ive never seen marvel vs capcom in the flesh.

[imdave]

I enjoy playing with my Wii (stop laughing), but the lack of must have games is really letting the side down. The Wiis top rated game Twilight Princess is more a Gamecube game than it is a Wii game. The controls work really well, and its a visually beautiful game with great lighting and art direction but its still like a Gamecube game. The Virtual Console is great but is very expensive considering their limitations. The price of the machine is great, but controllers are very expensive. Add together the cost of the Wiimote and Nunchuck attachment and the UK price is £45. Considering the Wii is toted as fun for all the family etc. 4 complete controllers will cost £180, the same price as the Wii itself :roll:

The PS3 is very expensive(£425), this is down to the Blu-Ray built in but its still a lot of money. Europe are paying more for less, emulation being the key word as Euro PS3s lose the chip inside the Japanese and US machines. The controller is £35, not as much as the Wiis but the lack of "Dual shock" is a little disappointing. Online is free but isn't nearly as good as Xbox Live's service. The PS3 is like the Wii, not many great games available yet. Its top rated game, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion can be played on the 360 and PC.

The 360 premium is cheaper than the PS3(£280), 20GB HDD isn't much in comparison to the PS3s 60GB but when the Elite launches here (yes we are still waiting here, they are doing a Sony), it will likely be much cheaper than the PS3 but with the 120GB HDD. Xbox Live doesn't really have any real competition from its rivals and is a reasonable £40 per year. The 360 has been out since late 2005 so the games catalogue is better than Wii and PS3. Its top rated game Gears of War has stunning visuals but the games single player campaign is a little short.

[WOLF]

you americans are lucky there arent any arcade places in the UK apart from seaside resorts and there rubbish anyway. Ive never seen marvel vs capcom in the flesh.
Well you know in the 80's was the Arcade uprising in America and most of those arcades just stayed there. That's one of the contributing reasons why we have so many arcades. And if you really want a arcade now and days all you need is the great MAME (if someone doesn't know what MAME is then google it)

[Hanzo]

You sound like a Nintendo fan! Or.. a me!
Nintendo is a piece of sh*t too and yes I owned a Wii once, but it got boring after a few weeks and I got rid if it.

All I have now are Arcade PCB/Cartridge games and I do not use MAME because it's not the real thing. :)

[WOLF]

Arcade PCB? Is that a cubboard or a computer download?

[Joseph]

It is like a capcom play system. Google it. I would one buy one but they cost like 500 a piece and mame is free.

[WOLF]

Talk about a dedicated fan! Wow I am with Joseph I rather stick with MAME

[Hanzo]

Talk about a dedicated fan! Wow I am with Joseph I rather stick with MAME
This is real dedication. Just this set cost me like $3,800 alone.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/393/p1010001bq9.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010001bq9.jpg)http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8030/p1010003xe2.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010003xe2.jpg)

[WOLF]

$3,800!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's a expensive passtime.

[TBGixxer]

My cousin Josh and I always mess with each other b/c he has a PS3 and I have a 360. We always talk about which one is best. Tonight our other cousin came over and we started talking about it. I found out that he had a 360 on Live also. Poor little PS3 owner out in the world all lonely with no connectivity :)

[WOLF]

My cousin Josh and I always mess with each other b/c he has a PS3 and I have a 360. We always talk about which one is best. Tonight our other cousin came over and we started talking about it. I found out that he had a 360 on Live also. Poor little PS3 owner out in the world all lonely with no connectivity :)
It isn't that they are unpopular it's just that the PS3 is so damn expensive! If I had a choice I would get a PS3 because I am loyal to the franchise since I stuck with them since Play Station (except when my PS got poned to pay rent then I had the 64 til the PS2 came out) This includes the PSP.