My experience with 360/PS3. Which is best?

[Lethal]

Will so many people dogging the PS3 without owning one I decided to make a pro/con list for both systems.

Pros
Xbox 360 Premium
1. Modder friendly. Microsoft seen how many gamers were modding the original Xbox and they did a great job making this system very modder friendly.
2. Great graphics (Gears of War, COD3, Madden 07, Oblivion)
3. Superb Marketplace. Microsoft has a head start with the marketplace and has really shined in this area. Its nearly flawless.
4. Lots and lots of games
5. Achievements. This is what makes gamers buy more games and play them till the end. This is by far the greatest idea by a game manufacturer ever. Gamers have a reason to complete these $60 games, even if they suck lol.

PS3 60gb
1. Blu-Ray HD Player. This is great for those who dont want to drop $999.99 on a standard blu-ray player.
2. Use your PSP to access your PS3 hard drive. You can literally be anywhere and access your hard drive to look at pictures or listen to music.
3. Free online. Now its no XBL but it is free. Games like Resistance can host 40players and saves your stats for free.
4. Web Browser. Now I personally dont use it but there are some that do. Its pretty simple to use especially with a USB keyboard. You can also use browser in HD.
5. Great graphics. (Fight Night Rd.3, Madden 07, Resistance)
6. 50gb of storage each disk. This is 4x larger than the 360 which means larger games and more detail.
7. 60GB hard drive. Sony planned ahead on this one and PS3 owners wont have to dish out more money later to upgrade.
8. HDMI support/Memory card slots

CONS
Xbox 360 Premium
1. Overheating! This seems to be the 360's biggest fault. Thousands of systems overheat at no fault to the gamer.
2. System lag. Even with a 3 core 3.2ghz cpu the system still loses frame rates in certain games. (Madden 07, Oblivion, N3)
3. Small 20GB Hard drive. This is just too small. 360 owners have to dish out even more money for the upgrade.
4. No HDMI support. If you want HDMI you have to purchase the HD-DVD player. Another upgrade.

PS3 60GB
1. Lack of games. Sony didnt have anywhere near the games the 360 had at launch.
2. Poor PS Store. Yes its free but the store is pretty empty and Sony knows what Microsoft is already pushin.
3. Controller signal drops. Every once in a while the signal from the controler drops and can cause major frustration while in a game.
4. No HDMI or HD cables with system? Once you open the box you realize you have to go back to the store and purchase some cables ranging from $30-$100. Thanks alot Sony!
5. Lack of achievement system. Microsoft has done amazing things with this system which is what made the company lots of money. Sony needs to compete with their own system ASAP!

OVERALL
Price - For the money I think the PS3 is the better deal.
Quality - No overheating and no lack of frames with the PS3
Games - 360 blows the PS3 away in this area
Online - Even though you have to pay for the good stuff the 360 dominates this area too.

If I were to choose between the 2 right now I would pick the 360. There are just so many games to choose from and the achievement system is fantastic. Followed with a wonderfull marketplace where you can rent new movies or even purchase shows like Spongebob Squarepants for your kids. Hopefully by next year the PS3 will make the choice tougher.

WINNER
Xbox 360

This is in no way a console war thread. I understand that some may not agree with everything I have said but this is my personal experience with the 2 systems. This is to help gamers decide what is the best choice to spend their money on.

[RaGe]

Price - For the money I think the PS3 is the better deal.

You say it is a better deal for the price? It is still $200 more that the xbox 360, and the 20gb version of the ps3 is still $100 more.

[Lethal]

You say it is a better deal for the price? It is still $200 more that the xbox 360, and the 20gb version of the ps3 is still $100 more.

Xbox 360 = $400
HD-DVD = $200
Upgrade to larger Hard drive = $100 minimum Since the 20gb is $100 a larger hard drive will most likely cost $150-$200
Total = $700 minimum

PS3 60gb = $600 no upgrades needed.

PS3 is the better buy for the price.

I am not comparing the 20gb PS3 just like I am not using the core 360. I dont waste money on lesser value systems.

[-CJJB-]

my 360 dosn't overheat at all.
Is it because its a newer model or something?
Yeh when outdoors in oblivion there is a bit of lag.
20gb is plenty for me at the moment.

I think there was a few rumours that microsoft will get a blu ray player add on.....

[Lethal]

my 360 dosn't overheat at all.
Is it because its a newer model or something?
Yeh when outdoors in oblivion there is a bit of lag.
20gb is plenty for me at the moment.

I think there was a few rumours that microsoft will get a blu ray player add on.....

Not all 360's overheat. There are some new ones that do overheat. I personally think this is why Microsoft is switching to 65nm chips that produce less heat. I know its cheaper but I think its because of the heat. And sure 20gb is enough for right now but wait until you download a few demos and few TV shows. I only have 3GB left and I dont want to delete any shows that I paid for. Just a very poor move on Microsoft having only a 20gb option. Then we have to transer the 20gb over to the new hard drive. Its going to be a process. And people that dont have a computer are going to have some problems transfering their data.

[RaGe]

Anything you have downloaded you can re-download at a later time if you delete it

[Lethal]

Anything you have downloaded you can re-download at a later time if you delete it

Another task that shouldnt be needed. I dont like redownloading things on my computer let alone my 360.

[Krayzie]

My 360 does kinda overheat but I was given a Nyko 360 Intercooler for free from my mate so I just use that.

I don't hate the PS3 but in my opinion I would buy the XBOX 360.

[Pdog1]

Well, even though I have had 2 console overheat (on my 3rd now) I still disagree with the overheating statement lol... The new console rarely overheat, prob. the same amount as PS3s that overheat (very few I'm sure)... The first ones overheated like CRAZY but, at this point, as long as you get a new one, you should be ok.

Nice comparison though!

[Lethal]

The new console rarely overheat

I dont think I even need to comment on that lol. You said it right there. The new model still overheats. And you are on your 3rd one. An annoying problem that never should have happened to a $400 system. I dont understand why people continue to make excuses for Microsoft. But again this isnt a thread to start a war. Your opinion is your opinion. Agree to disagree.

[TBGixxer]

Nice post! You are forgetting one little detail about the next step in the gaming revolution that the 360 offers. XNA software available to anybody w/ a Windows xp pc. This software allows you to create your own games that you will soon (by 08') be able to trade and sell via the xbox Live Marketplace. For 99.00/year you get to subscribe and will get free scripts and such to use as the basis of your game!

[Pdog1]

Nice post! You are forgetting one little detail about the next step in the gaming revolution that the 360 offers. XNA software available to anybody w/ a Windows xp pc. This software allows you to create your own games that you will soon (by 08') be able to trade and sell via the xbox Live Marketplace. For 99.00/year you get to subscribe and will get free scripts and such to use as the basis of your game!

I dont believe this has been released yet so, he cant use it as "my experience"....

[TBGixxer]

Good point on the "my experience" part but i'm sure the software is already available. D/L the software for free at msdn.com/xna and get more details on sharing your games at dreambuildplay.com

[Hanzo]

Meh - I never went online with my xbox 360. Well maybe once to check it out and to update it. Same thing with my PS3, but since the PS3 is region free I will be importing tons of games.

Meaning I get to play games months ahead of other PS3 and xbox 360 users.

MUHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAA!!

[RaGe]

lol I can do that with my modded 360

[Hanzo]

lol I can do that with my modded 360

I can do tha to my PS3 without having to mod it. ;)

[steveie]

you do know most of the 360 games are also region free right?

[Hanzo]

you do know most of the 360 games are also region free right?
A "few" handfuls, YES I'm not stupid. No sense in arguing which is better with me anyways. I have owned them all and don't really care.

[RaGe]

games cost is a big thing

ps3 - $60
xbox360 - under $2

:)

[Nitrus]

Yeh, but thats not a generic price, thats just YOUR price. So you cant make an unbiased, and valid comment with that as support.

[steveie]

for whats its worth im realy digging PS3 at the moment. Too bad sony priced it out of my realistic reach. Both consoles are disssapointing if you look at one way. The step from Snes to N64 was huge . Playstation1 to playsation 2 wasbig aswel but i can honestly say some 360 games look the same or only just better then some orginal xbox games

[RaGe]

for whats its worth im realy digging PS3 at the moment. Too bad sony priced it out of my realistic reach. Both consoles are disssapointing if you look at one way. The step from Snes to N64 was huge . Playstation1 to playsation 2 wasbig aswel but i can honestly say some 360 games look the same or only just better then some orginal xbox games

Why kind of a TV do you have it hooked up to?

[steveie]

Why kind of a TV do you have it hooked up to?


im playing in high defination


play games like blitz the league (probably worse then orginal xbox)
pro evo soccer 6

but thats only 2 i can think of

[resstealth]

ps3 suffers bad frame rate issues in cod3 i know of for sure. and you have to keep in mind, the comparisons being made are only for those with hdtv's.

[Lethal]

I havent played COD3 for the PS3 yet. I have played Full Auto 2, Resistance, Madden 07, and Fight Night. Neither of those suffer from loss of frame rate. Ill check out COD3 though.

[steveie]

I havent played COD3 for the PS3 yet. I have played Full Auto 2, Resistance, Madden 07, and Fight Night. Neither of those suffer from loss of frame rate. Ill check out COD3 though.

also THP8 is supose to have framerate issues on the PS3

[xWill.]

+ rep lethal, good read.

I jsut got a 360 about a week ago and love every bit of it. The marketplace is where i think the system really shines at, it has so much to offer at a reasonable price.

[sum182oftheyear]

I havent played COD3 for the PS3 yet. I have played Full Auto 2, Resistance, Madden 07, and Fight Night. Neither of those suffer from loss of frame rate. Ill check out COD3 though.
We were playing my friends ps3 and it was losing frame rate in Madden and Tony Hawks Project 8

[Hanzo]

Get over the bashing people - you just bash because you can't afford to buy it. :rolleyes:

[tumtum]

Me personally i'm getting the PS3 at this time for Blu-ray<<more movies I can enjoy with my family. And using the the 360 at this time for gaming. In a year or so the PS3 will have the games correct and not direct ports and also there exclusive titles. So all in all i'll have the best of both worlds. Nice review Lethal...

[vtec236]

4. No HDMI support. If you want HDMI you have to purchase the HD-DVD player. Another upgrade.

WINNER
Xbox 360

thanks for the review it's good to see an honest review, BUT i cannot believe no one caught this. Even with the HD-DVD you cannot have HDMI until the Zephyr(sp?) comes out, The HD-DVD runs through USB to the 360 and then to get 1080p you must use VGA cable otherwise component cables will only produce 1080i. Also with the VGA cable i will upconvert standard dvd's to 1080i but will not with component.

My review is if your looking for HD movies and worry more about hidef movies then get the ps3 it is worth the money, but if you want a gaming system and could care less about hidef movies get a 360

[Hybrid]

Doesn't Madden run on 30 frames/sec?

[TBGixxer]

I heard that the PS3 will downscale your dvd/game to 480p if you only have a 720p tv. Is this true?

[Lethal]

I heard that the PS3 will downscale your dvd/game to 480p if you only have a 720p tv. Is this true?

It will downscale to 480p if you have a 1080i TV that doesnt support 720p. 720p has to be supported to enjoy the PS3 at all.

[GVTTW]

I really haven't experienced the PS3 to know which one is better, but the online play is so much better, and at the moment the games are much better, I would say the 360 is a better buy.

[Maaz]

Get over the bashing people - you just bash because you can't afford to buy it. :rolleyes:
True......

[vamosrafa]

That was an uneeded bump for an absolute crap answer!

[Hockeyguy219]

Yes it really was... But oh well. This is a great review, I agree completely, good job Lethal. I was just wondering though, in the marketplace, when I try to download the shows, or even just look at them, how come all of them are just trailers, I thought you could download the real show. Or is there something you have to do to make the real show pop up?

[Hanzo]

Point proven *roffles* How can you talk smack on something you do not even own?

"Oh, I've read the Media, etc, they say it's a POS!"

Be a leader not a follower!

[Hockeyguy219]

Well said. Thats why I don't bash the PS3, because I havent ever played it. Maybe a few times in the stores, but nothing substantial. Id like to actaully try one out so I can see which one I like more.

[Lethal]

I thought you could download the real show. Or is there something you have to do to make the real show pop up?

I have downloaded 15 full episodes of Spongebob and South Park. When you download them go to your videos and watch them. Episodes are roughly 160msp each. If you arent paying for them then you are not getting the full episode.

[Hockeyguy219]

Do you have to already have the MS points on your account for those to show up? Because I just looked and there isn't even a Spongebob or South Park in the menus. I looked throughout all the media downloads, and couldnt find any full version shows, just trailers and such.

[FILTHY J NASTY]

Great review , i think the ps3 will live up to its name,only when the price is lowerd

[Lethal]

Do you have to already have the MS points on your account for those to show up? Because I just looked and there isn't even a Spongebob or South Park in the menus. I looked throughout all the media downloads, and couldnt find any full version shows, just trailers and such.

Your killing me smalls! You have to have MSP to purchase the shows.

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[Hockeyguy219]

I know you need points to BUY them, just I cant even SEE them as an option to buy is what Im trying to say. Like I go to the Media thing, and then go to the TV Shows and I can only see a couple options, and its all trailers. So thats why Im asking, do you have to have MS points to just see the things too.

[Lethal]

You dont need points first to see them. They are just there.

[steveie]

right im taking a stab in the dark and saying hockeyguy is canadian? if so the service might not be available to canada. Its not availble in the UK i know that for sure

[Hockeyguy219]

OOOOh, that would probably be right. I am Canadian so thats why it may be different. Good job steveie!

Sorry to confuse you on that one Lethal, I had no idea it would be defferent.

[steveie]

another case solved by steveie!

[Hybrid]

HD DVD players can output 1080p right? Some HD DVD's are 1080p as stated in the official website.

[Lethal]

It will output 1080p but not with HDMI cables.