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vtec236
04-05-2007, 05:18 AM
Well they have annoucnd a release date for the long awaited Forza2. it is May 29th the Demo should be up some time in April so look for it in pdog's thread.
I'm getting it and i am VERY excited about it, who else is?
Here is some good links for you'll to check out
http://forzamotorsport.net/news/announcements/carlist.htm
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2007/0404-forza2demo.htm
http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/0DDF331B-AC06-4370-B916-A7464646F5B8/0/vidforza2auctionhousefeatureHi.asx
UPDATE 4-6-07
Here is a link to the pitpass where they show what kind of custom things you can do to the cars!!
http://forzamotorsport.net/news/pitpassreports/pitpass41.htm
UPDATE 4-21-07
COMPLETE List of Cars in the game. Demo cars on page 2
2002 Acura RSX Type-S
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2006 Acura RL A-Spec
2005 Acura NSX
1997 Acura NSX
2000 Acura VIS Racing Integra Type-R
2002 Acura #42 Realtime Racing NSX
2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro
2000 Audi S4
2004 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2006 Audi RS 4
2000 Audi AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4
2001 Audi #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2002 Audi #1 Infineon Audi R8
2004 Audi #5 Audi Sport Japan Team Goh R8
2004 Audi #88 Audi Sport UK Team Veloqx R8
2006 Audi #2 FSI Champion Racing R8
2004 Audi #8 Audi ABT TT-R
2002 Audi #1 Champion S4 Competition
2003 Audi #1 Champion RS 6
2004 Bentley Continental GT
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
2005 BMW Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe
2002 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1999 BMW Motorsport #15 BMW Motorsport V12 LMR
2005 BMW Motorsport #2 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2002 Cadillac #6 Team Cadillac Northstar LMP-02
2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac CTS-V
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Coupe
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1996 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS-454
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2003 Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition
2002 Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 Corvette
2004 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5.R
2006 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing C6.R
2003 Chevrolet #73 3R-Racing Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #31 Whelen Engineering Corvette Z06
2005 Chevrolet #99 Tiger Racing Corvette Z06
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
1998 Chrysler Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
1968 Chrysler Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2003 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
1969 Dodge Charger R/T-SE
2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT
2000 Dodge #57 Carsport Holland Viper GTS-R
2001 Dodge #58 Larbre Compétition Viper GTS-R
2002 Dodge #1 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
2003 Dodge #126 Team Zakspeed Viper GTS-R
2005 Dodge #77 Team Zakspeed Viper ACR
2003 Dodge #23 Magellan Financial Viper Competition Coupe
2004 Dodge #22 3R-Racing Viper Competition Coupe
2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
1991 Ferrari 512 TR
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
1984 Ferrari GTO
2004 Ferrari F430
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
1987 Ferrari F40
1995 Ferrari F50
2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
2003 Ferrari #72 Team Alphand Aventures 550 Maranello GTS
2003 Ferrari #88 Veloqx / Prodrive Racing 550 Maranello
2005 Ferrari #11 Larbre Competition 550 Maranello GTS
2006 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione F430GT
2003 Ford Focus SVT
2006 Ford Focus ST
2005 Ford Mustang GT
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford Ford GT
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
1966 Ford GT40 MkII
2003 Ford FocusSport SVT Focus
2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang
1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTi
1995 Honda CR-X Del Sol SiR
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
2000 Honda Prelude SiR
1991 Honda CR-X SiR
2000 Honda Integra Type-R
2004 Honda Civic Type-R
2002 Honda Integra Type-R
2003 Honda S2000
1992 Honda NSX-R
2005 Honda NSX-R
2005 Honda NSX-R GT
2004 Honda Wings West Civic Si
2000 Honda Aerogear Integra Type-R
2004 Honda Mugen Civic Type-R
2002 Honda Mugen Integra Type-R
2003 Honda Mugen S2000
1994 Honda Do-Luck NSX
2003 Honda #16 G'ZOX NSX
2005 Honda #18 TAKATA DOME NSX
2005 Honda #8 ARTA NSX
2003 Hyundai Tuscani Elisa
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
2007 Jaguar XK Coupe
1993 Jaguar XJ220
1961 Jaguar E-type S1
2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
2003 Lexus IS300
2002 Lexus SC430
2006 Lexus IS350
2003 Lexus Foose Design IS430 Project Car
2003 Lotus Elise 135R
2005 Lotus Elise 111S
2005 Lotus Exige
2005 Lotus Exige Espionage
1989 Lotus Carlton
2005 Lotus Exige Cup 240
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
2006 Maserati GranSport
2004 Maserati MC12
2005 Maserati #15 JMB Racing MC12
2005 Maserati #35 Risi Competizione MC12
2005 Maserati #9 Vitaphone Racing Team MC12
2005 Mazda Axela Sport 23S
2001 Mazda Mazdaspeed Familia
2001 Mazda Mazdaspeed Roadster
1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
2004 Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed
1997 Mazda RX-7
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A
1995 Mazda AB Flug RX-7
1995 Mazda INGS RX-7
1995 Mazda RE-Amemiya RX-7
1997 McLaren F1 GT
1997 McLaren #41 Gulf Team McLaren F1 GTR
1997 McLaren #43 Team BMW Motorsport McLaren F1 GTR
2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
2005 Mercedes SLR
1998 Mercedes AMG Mercedes CLK GTR
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
2003 MINI Cooper-S
2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R
1997 Mitsubishi GTO
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GT
1999 Mitsubishi MINE'S CP9A Lancer Evolution VI
2003 Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII
2006 Mitsubishi HKS Time Attack Evolution
1996 Nissan Silvia K's
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür
2003 Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
1998 Nissan R390
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432R
2002 Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z Custom Edition
2000 Nissan Top Secret D1-Spec S15
2002 Nissan MINE'S R34 Skyline GT-R
1993 Nissan MINE'S R32 Skyline GT-R
1998 Nissan #32 NISSAN R390 GT1
2003 Nissan #12 CALSONIC SKYLINE
2003 Nissan #23 XANAVI NISMO GT-R
2003 Nissan #3 HASEMISPORT ENDLESS Z
2005 Nissan #46 Dream Cube's ADVAN Z
2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
2003 Opel #5 OPC TEAM PHOENIX Astra V8
1999 Pagani Zonda C12
2003 Pagani #17 Carsport America Zonda GR
2005 Panoz Esperante GTLM
2003 Panoz #11 JML Team Panoz LMP-01
2005 Panoz #51 JML Team Panoz Esperante GTLM
2006 Panoz #81 Team LNT Panoz Esperante GTLM
2007 Peugeot 207 RC
2004 Peugeot 206 RC
2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000
1993 Peugeot #3 Peugeot Talbot Sport 905 EVO 1C
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Pontiac GTO
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
2003 Porsche Boxster S
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
2006 Porsche Cayman S
2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
1987 Porsche 959
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 (997)
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1970 Porsche 914/6
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1987 Porsche #17 Racing Porsche AG 962c
1998 Porsche #26 Porsche AG 911 GT1-98
2004 Porsche #23 Alex Job Racing 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #31 Peterson-White Lightning 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #44 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
2005 Porsche #5 XBOX 360 911 GT3-RSR
2002 Porsche #57 Larbre McDonalds 996 GT3 Cup
2003 Porsche #22 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #3 Lechner Racing School Team 1 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #55 Applied Materials 911 GT3 Cup
2005 Porsche #66 AXA Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2006 Porsche #81 Synergy Racing 911 GT3 Cup
2006 Porsche #82 Red Bull 911 GT3 Cup
2006 Proto Motors Spirra
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
2000 Saleen S281
2006 Saleen S281 E
2004 Saleen S7
2001 Saleen #26 Konrad Motorsports S7R
2002 Saleen #11 Graham Nash Motorsport S7R
2003 Saleen #2 Konrad Motorsports S7R
2006 Saturn ION Red Line
2005 Scion tC
2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
2005 SEAT Cupra GT Prototype
2007 Shelby GT500
1999 Shelby Series 1
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
2005 Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
2006 Subaru Impreza S204
1998 Subaru Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b
2003 Subaru #77 CUSCO SUBARU ADVAN IMPREZA
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
2002 Toyota MR-S
1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
2002 Toyota Soarer 430SCV
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1998 Toyota Supra RZ
1969 Toyota 2000GT
2002 Toyota Tom's W123 MR-S
1995 Toyota Border MR2 Turbo T-bar
1995 Toyota VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar
2003 Toyota APR Performance Celica GTS
1995 Toyota Tom's T020 MR2
2002 Toyota Tom's Z382 Soarer
1992 Toyota Do-Luck Supra
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 03
1998 Toyota AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 99
1998 Toyota Top Secret 0-300 Supra
1999 Toyota #3 Toyota Motorsports GT-ONE TS020
2004 Toyota #35 Yellow Hat YMS Supra
2005 Toyota #36 OPEN INTERFACE TOM'S SUPRA
2005 Toyota #6 EXXON Superflo Supra
2006 Toyota #25 ECLIPSE ADVAN SUPRA
2001 TVR Tuscan S
2001 TVR Tuscan R
2005 TVR Sagaris
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
2004 Volkswagen Beetle
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
2003 Volkswagen Bora VR6
2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
2004 Volvo S60 R
2004 Volvo #24 At-Speed S60 R
UPDATE 4-26-07
New video came online today check it out
Fuel Your Fantasy!!! (http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/9E3C5F8B-B49E-480B-8D5E-DFCB1AC82F93/0/vidforza2_unremarkableHi.asx/)
how many times do you have to be told?!?!
Hockeyguy219
04-05-2007, 10:27 AM
OOOOHH man. I am STOKED for this game. I have been reading and watching some previews for this game, and I think it looks awesome!! I want to get it on release or soon after.
vtec236
04-06-2007, 05:16 PM
how many times do you have to be told?!?!
What are you talking about?
Hockeyguy219
04-07-2007, 04:03 AM
Hey vtec, do you think it will be alot the same as the first one, or lots of new and improved things? Ive never played the first one, so I dont know what to expect
vtec236
04-07-2007, 05:07 AM
It has all the tracks the first one had plus they added sebring, FL and TONS more cars, and layers for making your car super unique. I still play Forza from time to time but wish it had "Next Gen" graphics
vtec236
04-07-2007, 05:54 AM
New Update Post #1
Hockeyguy219
04-07-2007, 02:03 PM
That new link you put looks cool. I think this will be one of the better games this year, and one of the best racing games ever. What do you think? Is this game a little bit like Gran Turismo 4 for PS2? Or is it a lot different somehow?
xbx360guy
04-07-2007, 03:04 PM
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200187
Looks like the game has been pushed back again..New release date Mat 29th...But i still want this game..It looks cool..
vtec236
04-07-2007, 04:24 PM
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200187
Looks like the game has been pushed back again..New release date Mat 29th...But i still want this game..It looks cool..
Updated post 1
xbx360guy
04-07-2007, 05:25 PM
Are we gonna se up a TVG race day event for members for this game..It would be fun to race all of you..
vtec236
04-07-2007, 06:31 PM
hell yes we are
Hockeyguy219
04-08-2007, 12:09 AM
I dont know if it has been pushed back for sure. Futureshop website says May 15th still. So who knows?
vtec236
04-08-2007, 12:32 AM
i will make the real update as soon as xbox.com updates the release
Sivart
04-09-2007, 11:09 PM
This is the next game im getting.
The first Forza is awesome i cant wait too get this game.
and hells yes we have to have a TVG race.
Hockeyguy219
04-09-2007, 11:53 PM
For sure Travis. I can just see it now, a super close race and everyone turning on to the last corner, drifting around and then a drag race to the finish :) I think this will be such a good game. Im excited for it to come out. This game and Two Worlds are the next games I am going to buy.
Hockeyguy219
04-15-2007, 09:16 PM
Anyone have any idea on when the demo might be released, I heard April 22nd but I doubt it.... I hope so though, cause thats my Birthday :)
vtec236
04-15-2007, 10:46 PM
Well Turn10 announced the cars that will be featured in the soon to be released Demo.
1997 BMW Motorsport M3 E36
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2003 Dodge SRT4
2004 Ferrari F430
2005 Ford Ford GT
2005 Ford Mustang GT
2002 Honda Integra Type-R
2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
2006 Lexus IS350
2004 Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed
2005 Mercedes SLR
2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
2007 Porsche 911 Turbo (997)
2005 Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
2005 TVR Sagaris
These are the A & C class cars, there will be 8 R2 cars that will be included but not disclosed until the end of the week when they finalize the cars list. Also check out the artical here (http://forzamotorsport.net/news/pitpassreports/pitpass42.htm)
To read how they get the sound of Lethal slamming into the walls at 60MPH :-) (http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/d/1/ad173356-ed22-477c-a973-10c2a10f2b46/crash.mp3)
Number 2
04-17-2007, 11:25 PM
Are we gonna se up a TVG race day event for members for this game..It would be fun to race all of you..
we should definately do that. we should also do some test drive before this game comes out! It's the last 10 lousy points i need!!!!1
xbx360guy
04-18-2007, 07:23 PM
Just to let everyone know i was at gamestop the other day and they guy siad Forza 2 is coming out May 15th..He showed it to me on the computer screen..I know this guy pretty well he sometimes gives me discounts since we both came from Buffalo...
Krayzie
04-18-2007, 08:05 PM
This is going to be an awsome game!
cuffless_remz
04-18-2007, 08:14 PM
i cant wait. i love driving games
Krayzie
04-18-2007, 08:15 PM
Same here, Im not sure what version to get.
Limited Edition or standard...?
xbx360guy
04-21-2007, 02:13 AM
I wish they would stop changing release date for this game...Now its back to May 29...Who knows maybe they will push back the demo also...Hope not..
vtec236
04-21-2007, 03:16 AM
Same here, Im not sure what version to get.
Limited Edition or standard...?
Limited all the way :-)
FILTHY J NASTY
04-21-2007, 03:36 AM
Whens is the demo coming out?
Hockeyguy219
04-21-2007, 07:54 PM
Ive heard rumors about tommorow :) But Im thinking its not gonna be
xbx360guy
04-21-2007, 08:45 PM
Limited all the way :-)
Whats the limited one..I didnt see that one..
vtec236
04-22-2007, 03:44 AM
Whats the limited one..I didnt see that one..
Hmmm not sure i saw it a couple months ago maybe they changed their mind.
Also Update all 300 cars have been added to post 1
vtec236
04-27-2007, 06:07 AM
Small update new video in post 1
vtec236
04-30-2007, 01:56 AM
New Video From Microsoft
American Vs. JDM! (http://download.microsoft.com/download/b/d/d/bdd3a04a-0081-4544-a89c-f5c12549d9b3/detroitvsjapan.wmv/)
xbx360guy
04-30-2007, 08:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forza_Motorsport_2#Demo
More info i found about the demo...Looks like its gonna be May...Maybe May 1st..lol
Hockeyguy219
05-01-2007, 12:23 AM
Im really stoked to play this game. I hope the demo comes out soon.
Leaves07
05-01-2007, 01:52 AM
I can't wait for this...I already have it pre-ordered technically, and the customization in this game will be great.
vtec236
05-02-2007, 04:47 AM
Ok this has to be my best update yet
http://experience.forzamotorsport.net/
is a new site that tells a little more about the cars and the things you can do. I think this will be like making the Mii's i will spend HOURS customizing the cars i own!
m1ndless
05-02-2007, 05:33 AM
Is the demo out yet? How does this compate to Gran Turismo? I like the VAST selection of cars. I might rent this one before I buy it.
xbx360guy
05-02-2007, 03:51 PM
Is the demo out yet? How does this compate to Gran Turismo? I like the VAST selection of cars. I might rent this one before I buy it.
No demo yet...But i'm guessin after the spring update...And here is the official achevment list..http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=333421&posted=1#post333421
TBGixxer
05-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Pretty interesting ad for this game in OXM. It's got one of those flip-open edges like on cologne/perfume ads. You open it and smell a burned rubber type scent. It was cool at first but then gave me a headache and I had trouble reading the next couple of pages, lol!
vtec236
05-02-2007, 10:37 PM
Pretty interesting ad for this game in OXM. It's got one of those flip-open edges like on cologne/perfume ads. You open it and smell a burned rubber type scent. It was cool at first but then gave me a headache and I had trouble reading the next couple of pages, lol!
Agree it made my eyes water and now i cannot get the smell out of my nose.
m1ndless
05-02-2007, 11:14 PM
How realistic is this game? I never played the first Forza game...
vtec236
05-03-2007, 12:00 AM
OMG unlike gay Gran SuxIsmo when you hit a wall you don't bounce off like a ball of play dough. If you drive outside the limits of the car you will slide off track and could damage the supension to make the car pull to the left or right. if you hit hard enough you will damage the top end and transmission so it will not go as fast and take longer to shift between gears. It is as real as you can get without actually taking a car on the track
m1ndless
05-03-2007, 12:08 AM
Damn! This game sounds awesome, I am going to pre-order it tommarrow. I might be selling GHII, I played through hard, and I suck at expert, and its no fun anymore.
vtec236
05-03-2007, 12:39 AM
It is well worth the buy i love this game
Hockeyguy219
05-03-2007, 10:13 PM
Well has anyone else heard anything on the demo release. I really want to play it. Let me know when you hear something please.
xbx360guy
05-03-2007, 10:29 PM
Well has anyone else heard anything on the demo release. I really want to play it. Let me know when you hear something please.
I'm thinking Monday after the spring update...
Number 2
05-04-2007, 04:49 AM
Damn! This game sounds awesome, I am going to pre-order it tommarrow. I might be selling GHII, I played through hard, and I suck at expert, and its no fun anymore.
If you really sell guitar hero let me know I want an additional guitar!:D
m1ndless
05-04-2007, 05:17 AM
I might just "return" it to walmart and use the store cred towards a new game :)
xbx360guy
05-07-2007, 12:23 AM
http://www.msxbox-world.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7344
These are the cars you will choose from at the start of the game..You get 11,000 credits to begin with...I might go with the Cobalt SS...
Hanzo
05-07-2007, 12:25 AM
Thank god I pre-ordered this game like a month in advance. Can't wait to customize my whips! Did anyone get the faceplate too? I ordered like 4 of them.
xpcgamer
05-07-2007, 02:33 AM
I'll take the Silvia thank you
vtec236
05-07-2007, 02:58 AM
Thank god I pre-ordered this game like a month in advance. Can't wait to customize my whips! Did anyone get the faceplate too? I ordered like 4 of them.
I Got Mine!!
http://home.comcast.net/~vtec236/360/faceplates/forzaplate.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~vtec236/360/faceplates/forzaplate2.jpg
m1ndless
05-07-2007, 03:07 AM
I havent preordered it yet, I want to rent it before I decide if I want it or not. It seems like a pretty cool game though.
Krayzie
05-07-2007, 06:35 PM
Whats the official UK release date?
FILTHY J NASTY
05-09-2007, 02:30 PM
demo has been confirmed to be out by friday.
sources say today by 4pm (GMT)
I was going to get that forza faceplate but it does not match with my current yellow and white 360..
xbx360guy
05-09-2007, 04:27 PM
I'm getting mine tomorrow along with my Elite...That should look nice on there..From what i read on the forza 2 forums the demo should be out 2.00 am just like the update...
demo will be out at 2AM on the 10th, EST.
Hanzo
05-10-2007, 12:45 AM
Grab the Forza 2 faceplates now guys. These are Special Editions and will be worth alot of money a year or some from now. I guarantee it!
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1919/p1000823vn1.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000823vn1.jpg)
Grab the Forza 2 faceplates now guys. These are Special Editions and will be worth alot of money a year or some from now. I guarantee it!
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1919/p1000823vn1.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000823vn1.jpg)
go ahead and send me one please.
m1ndless
05-10-2007, 01:09 AM
Where do you get them at? I want to put on one my 360 not sell it. :lol:
vtec236
05-10-2007, 01:11 AM
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802465
m1ndless
05-10-2007, 01:13 AM
Damn. I was hoping you would get them free when you preorder. I remember when you used to get free shirts and hats and stuff when you preordered games, now you get nothing :(
Hockeyguy219
05-10-2007, 11:34 AM
SIIIICK!!! Forza 2 demo soon. And also, I think those faceplates looks SWEET. I want one, I might go pick one up.
Sorrgt for the double post, but just wanted to confirm that the Forza 2 demo is for sure out. Its in the middle of downloading for me, and am getting ready to play it
Use the edit button or I will have to flex on you!
yea, mine is at 91% done. Too bad I won't get to play it until this evening though. There IS an edit button, for those rare occasions you would like to update your posts.
Hybrid
05-10-2007, 01:29 PM
F34R, did you upgrade to broadband?
steveie
05-10-2007, 02:17 PM
just started downloading mine
F34R, did you upgrade to broadband?
Nope lol. I downloaded it from my workplace. Hence, I can't play it till later tonight lol.
steveie
05-10-2007, 11:14 PM
F34R didnt know you had a 360!
anyway the gameplay is good although its hard and realistic
the graphics suck ass! realy i hope this is just a preview evreything is jaggerd and dull. No speed blur or ligthing effects or even dust effects you have no sense of speed at all.
The gameplay rocks i just hope they update the graphics for launch
FILTHY J NASTY
05-10-2007, 11:14 PM
Well this blows, my 360 is in peices and will be till i finish water cooling it ahhh
F34R didnt know you had a 360!
anyway the gameplay is good although its hard and realistic
the graphics suck ass! realy i hope this is just a preview evreything is jaggerd and dull. No speed blur or ligthing effects or even dust effects you have no sense of speed at all.
The gameplay rocks i just hope they update the graphics for launch
i don't know how long it will last. It is a friends that is away for a bit. While I have it though, I do plan on using it lol.
Lethal
05-11-2007, 12:25 AM
I am not impressed with this demo one bit. After playing Gran Turismo HD this game just seems like crap. Hopefully the final game is better.
vtec236
05-11-2007, 03:38 AM
I am not impressed with this demo one bit. After playing Gran Turismo HD this game just seems like crap. Hopefully the final game is better.Well you like GT HD because you don't need skill to drive in the playstation world. Their racing games are more like pinball games. Not to mention that playstation is too worried about bluray to make any good games so screw sony.
anyway the gameplay is good although its hard and realistic
the graphics suck ass! realy i hope this is just a preview evreything is jaggerd and dull. No speed blur or ligthing effects or even dust effects you have no sense of speed at all.
You nailed it buddy this is what a "RACING SIM" is suppose to be like, not like the pinball games sony produces. This is a Demo with the final release less than three weeks away. As most of you know M$ has a pretty lengthy cert that all demos, games, arcade, ect. have to go through before they are tossed on the marketplace. so if you take that in to consideration then this demo was probalbly given to M$ well over two, three months ago so yes it will be better.
I've watched gameplay movies that look WAAAAAAY better than the demo. To be fair, I watched a forza 2 gameplay movie on my 360, same tv i played the demo on today. The gameplay movie was stunning.
Hybrid
05-11-2007, 03:58 AM
So I'm guessing the demo was way less than what was expected?
vtec236
05-11-2007, 04:10 AM
So I'm guessing the demo was way less than what was expected?
it's a demo i said the same thing about crackdown but in the end played the hell out of it
Hockeyguy219
05-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Well, the game comes out tomorrow, who is going to end up getting it.
Ive been thinking about it and I am for sure going to buy it. It looks really good, with lots of different features. Just wondering who else is stoked for this game like me, although I know vtec is ;), Ive been talking to him about it haha.
xbx360guy
05-29-2007, 01:17 AM
Well, the game comes out tomorrow, who is going to end up getting it.
Ive been thinking about it and I am for sure going to buy it. It looks really good, with lots of different features. Just wondering who else is stoked for this game like me, although I know vtec is ;), Ive been talking to him about it haha.
I'm getting this game also..Maybe we can start a Forza 2 TVG Club..
vtec236
05-29-2007, 01:37 AM
It will be in stores here in CO Weds so i will be on weds night if anyone else is
custom TVG paint jobs..... hellz yeah !
xbx360guy
05-29-2007, 02:13 AM
I have to wait untill Lethal sends my xbox back so i can play..I hope by the weekend..
m1ndless
05-29-2007, 02:16 AM
Meh. I don't think I will be purchasing this. I just started getting into Crackdown. I wasnt too happy with the demo.
Hockeyguy219
05-29-2007, 03:10 AM
Definitely a TVG "clan" or "club" would be sweet. We can have private races, which would be cool. Im stoked :)
I thought the demo was fun, but nothing special, but I guarantee the full version will be 10x better :D
jtuazon
05-29-2007, 03:33 AM
I wish I had money to get this game tomorrow but i spent all my money this weekend :(
hopefully i get it soon though
xbx360guy
05-29-2007, 02:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qG9JHwahi8&mode=related&search=
Video to show how to paint your car..
vtec236
05-29-2007, 06:23 PM
Holy Crap could they have done that in a faster speed :-)
Hockeyguy219
05-30-2007, 12:21 PM
Well I got the game yesterday, its pretty awesome. I havent played it too much yet so Im not too far. I havent gone online yet either, just a bit of career mode. But so far, it seems fun. Right now Im saving up to buy a new, better car, maybe a Corvette or BMW. What does everyone else think about this game?
vtec236
05-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Sweet i will be getting mine today so i will be on there tonight
steveie
05-30-2007, 02:34 PM
ive had this game since friday and im loving it! curretly on level 22 driver got some awsome cars but i mainly use my s class impreza! for some reason i struggle to control RWD cars so im sticking with AWD and FWD. Ive unloked the endurance events and they look hard
45 laps! in a D class car is going to be painful. Im banned from LIVE so cant go online although i do have a second 360 and hopefuly new FW works
xbx360guy
05-30-2007, 08:02 PM
Some how i got 2 copies instead of 1 Today...Because i know i only order 1...Not sure what i'm gonna do with the other...But i cant play since Lethal has my xbox...
steveie
05-30-2007, 08:18 PM
^^^ ur missing out!
anyway i did the D class endurance race total time of 53 minutes it was painful! The next one is a C class endurance 30 laps od leguna secca that is going to be very hard i hate that damn corckscrew turn chatces me evrey time http://www.nsxprime.com/Events/1999/images/tcc_1299_nsx_corkscrew_large_small.jpg
Still cant drive RWD very well the only car i fell like i can use for RWD is the zonda it just handles superbly but you cant use it in carrear intil level 38!
Right now i love my modded impreza its blitz's evreything and just sticks to the track
vtec236
05-31-2007, 09:02 AM
http://forzamotorsport.net/forzamotorsportnet/handlers/forza2handler.ashx?ID=41058&mode=7
Here is something i tossed together, i'm working on the TVG car now
steveie
05-31-2007, 10:03 AM
http://forzamotorsport.net/forzamotorsportnet/handlers/forza2handler.ashx?ID=41058&mode=7
Here is something i tossed together, i'm working on the TVG car now
It doesnt work
vtec236
05-31-2007, 05:36 PM
ok i will fix today when i get home
steveie
05-31-2007, 05:39 PM
anway i just did the laguena secca endurance race took 56 minutes. I damaged my car on the last lap and it had to limp back. I was shocked to see my damage penalty was 100000 CR!! On a normal race you ususaly get 1000 for a badly damaged one. I was realy annoyed at that i drove for 56 minutes and only collcted 80000 CR.
vtec236
05-31-2007, 10:09 PM
anway i just did the laguena secca endurance race took 56 minutes. I damaged my car on the last lap and it had to limp back. I was shocked to see my damage penalty was 100000 CR!! On a normal race you ususaly get 1000 for a badly damaged one. I was realy annoyed at that i drove for 56 minutes and only collcted 80000 CR.
Only 80K that is a good deal what assists did you have on?
steveie
05-31-2007, 10:13 PM
just ABS on. you get 100000 CR for doing an endurace race and then more credits on diffucluty and also i was using a car that has a 9.2 rarety rating.
Hockeyguy219
06-01-2007, 12:57 AM
Well, I absolutely love this game, I am so happy with it. I have to give thanks alot to Travis and Vtec for showing me this game and getting my syked for it. Thanks :) Im obsessed I think haha. Im stoked for endurance races, although they will be boring, I want the credits haha.
vtec236
06-01-2007, 01:43 AM
I Labeled this one Hooker :-)
it is a sleeper, 458hp 398ft/lbs AWD!!!
Hockeyguy219
06-01-2007, 02:59 AM
I dont even know how to do most of that stuff. Like with Xbox symbol on the back half and all that stuff.
But nice job on that one Vtec.
steveie
06-01-2007, 11:01 PM
so anyone know how to handle powerful RWD cars yet?
im on level 25 now
xbx360guy
06-01-2007, 11:06 PM
I Labeled this one Hooker :-)
it is a sleeper, 458hp 398ft/lbs AWD!!!
I like what it says on the rear bumper...lol
Hybrid
06-01-2007, 11:58 PM
Does this game get boring like PGR3, Test Drive?
Hanzo
06-02-2007, 01:49 AM
Oh snap you get 3 free cars with the Forza 2 LE.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8120/p1000892ts2.th.jpg (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000892ts2.jpg)http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3549/p1000894zs1.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000894zs1.jpg)http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7179/p1000895zy3.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000895zy3.jpg)
2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
2006 Ford Saleen Mustang S281 E
2006 Subaru Impreza S204
These are planned to be released here in the US of A within' 3 to 4 months.
FILTHY J NASTY
06-02-2007, 03:21 AM
But can u play that on ur USA console?
Like i wudd get it just for the Impreza , but is it any different from the US game?
Hanzo
06-02-2007, 06:32 PM
But can u play that on ur USA console?
Like i wudd get it just for the Impreza , but is it any different from the US game?
Umm no, It's NTSC-J only. Same exact game ( but LE with extra's), just a different region. I'm trying to get a Jap console as I type this. :lol:
FILTHY J NASTY
06-03-2007, 02:01 AM
Umm no, It's NTSC-J only. Same exact game ( but LE with extra's), just a different region. I'm trying to get a Jap console as I type this. :lol:
Lol, nice ehh wudd those codes work on the US game though?
Like if i got a code for the Impreza code from the Jap limited edition game, and typed the code on my US console and US game would it work?
Umm no, It's NTSC-J only. Same exact game ( but LE with extra's), just a different region. I'm trying to get a Jap console as I type this. :lol:
That seems like a huge hassle just to get a few cars that everyone else will have later anyways.
FILTHY J NASTY
06-03-2007, 02:28 AM
Hanzo, if i can confirm that i can use one of those codes to unlock a car on my US GAME AND CONSOLE, would you sell me the one for the impreza?
jtuazon
06-03-2007, 04:28 AM
Correct me if im wrong but didnt they have the 2003 Ferrari Challenge Stradale in the first forza?
Hybrid
06-10-2007, 01:39 AM
Do you guys have the steering wheel? I might think of getting it just for this game. How does it compare with driving in reality?
vtec236
06-10-2007, 02:21 AM
Do you guys have the steering wheel? I might think of getting it just for this game. How does it compare with driving in reality?
I got the wheel and love it! i only use the controller for paint jobs and photo shoots
Lethal
06-10-2007, 03:15 AM
I know Vtec is going to love me saying this. Forza 2 is the SHIZNIT! I love how realistic the turns are in this game. I really hate games that when you start sliding they make it impossible to recover but this game feels very realistic and people who know how to drive can recover quicker than others. Love it!
RubberBand_Man
06-10-2007, 05:30 AM
I love this two...
steveie
06-10-2007, 08:24 PM
I know Vtec is going to love me saying this. Forza 2 is the SHIZNIT! I love how realistic the turns are in this game. I really hate games that when you start sliding they make it impossible to recover but this game feels very realistic and people who know how to drive can recover quicker than others. Love it!
LOL lethal you said in the demo tread you hated it and GT:HD was waaay better but this is deffo a game were the more and more you get use to the driver engine the better it gets.
When i first played it i had just finished playing PGR3 so i was throwing the car around corners way to quick and crazy and just kept on crashing but i stuck to it and i think im quite decent at it now.
Lethal
06-10-2007, 08:33 PM
Well the demo did suck lol. This game really is great though. I can only drive in the view where you see your hood only and the display of my tire ratio on the screen.
steveie
06-10-2007, 08:37 PM
Well the demo did suck lol. This game really is great though. I can only drive in the view where you see your hood only and the display of my tire ratio on the screen.
i played the demo more then most games i actualy buy so i loved it. Forza is deffo a game that rewards skilled drivers i like!!
one thing annoys me.... its no way a simulation racer. Its half and half between simulator and arcade. One Example go do a endurance race in theroy as you do more and more laps your cars tires should heat up and be at optium grip and your car should be a lot ligthter due to fuel compostion this means you SHOULD be able to do alot more quicker laps i actualy found my quickest laps were at the start of the race were the car is not at its peak but thats just a small fault i still love it.
Krayzie
06-10-2007, 08:38 PM
I love this game, it's so realistic.
steveie
06-10-2007, 08:39 PM
I love this game, it's so realistic.
its not realy see above ^^^
Lethal
06-10-2007, 08:43 PM
i played the demo more then most games i actualy buy so i loved it. Forza is deffo a game that rewards skilled drivers i like!!
one thing annoys me.... its no way a simulation racer. Its half and half between simulator and arcade. One Example go do a endurance race in theroy as you do more and more laps your cars tires should heat up and be at optium grip and your car should be a lot ligthter due to fuel compostion this means you SHOULD be able to do alot more quicker laps i actualy found my quickest laps were at the start of the race were the car is not at its peak but thats just a small fault i still love it.
Thats only for Nascar races. Tires heat up and stick better yes but they also loose traction faster. Forza has many turns unlike Nascar and your not going to get better times on these courses in real life either.
steveie
06-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Thats only for Nascar races. Tires heat up and stick better yes but they also loose traction faster. Forza has many turns unlike Nascar and your not going to get better times on these courses in real life either.
no man thats not true also go watch F1 and any car motorsport (i watch a lot of it) its mainly about the fuel loads more then the tires anyway
Hybrid
06-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Do you guys all have a wheel? I can't seem to use the controller for the demo at all...grr
And can anyone explain those "paint jobs"?
steveie
06-10-2007, 10:28 PM
no i use controller becuase im poor and dont want to shell out. some of my paint jobs are ok some rubbish just mess around with shapes
also if any of you like me strugled with RWD cars simply go the tuning menu and set the tire pressure much more lower but set rear higher then lower should stop most over steering. If you bough upgrades you may also want to try making the roll cage alot more softer. My NSX use to oversteer like crazy now its perfect. You can tune on the fly if you just go for a test drive just use a new setting for evrey lap until you find your fav.
Lethal
06-10-2007, 10:48 PM
Do you guys all have a wheel? I can't seem to use the controller for the demo at all...grr
And can anyone explain those "paint jobs"?
Vtec has the wheel. He loves it. Its all he uses when playing this game.
vtec236
06-11-2007, 03:42 AM
Vtec has the wheel. He loves it. Its all he uses when playing this game.
Yep what he said, the only time i turn it off is to design the new cars. Number 2 told me that when you disconnect the power cord from the wheel and turn on a controller it takes the wheels place without restarting the box. This works great thanks number 2
cuffless_remz
06-11-2007, 05:34 PM
im thinking of getting this game tonight
Krayzie
06-11-2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah man you should.
Hybrid X, I use the controller and come first everytime.
cuffless_remz
06-11-2007, 09:29 PM
i got this before. i love this game
FILTHY J NASTY
06-15-2007, 02:28 AM
How the hell do you bid on cars in the auction house?
I want a wrx but can't find the bid button
xbx360guy
06-15-2007, 01:12 PM
How the hell do you bid on cars in the auction house?
I want a wrx but can't find the bid button
It depends on how much Credit you have...Then the bid button will show up..
steveie
06-15-2007, 04:36 PM
Vtec do you want to make a lap record thread like the one i made on the demo? we can make it a 2 weekly challenge
Here is another car that was gifted to me - thanks !
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7951/bunniesub5.th.jpg (http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bunniesub5.jpg)
Lethal
06-18-2007, 11:43 PM
I suck at it, but anyone want to race?
Gamertag - DaJollyRoger
Add Me. Race Me.
I bought the Sylvia (240sx) as my first car. Its alot harder than I thought, I did a few races, upgraded my car, and had to leave for work.
This game is addicting, I try to follow the lines, but its kinda hard.
Now you need to buy some cool cars in the auction
vtec236
06-19-2007, 12:13 AM
Vtec do you want to make a lap record thread like the one i made on the demo? we can make it a 2 weekly challenge
Sounds like a great Deal i will make a Thread later tonight or tomorrow and toss the 4K i got from you back into the contest
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 01:06 AM
Now you need to buy some cool cars in the auction
Do you use credits you earned in the game or what?
xWill.
06-19-2007, 01:12 AM
I'm going to have to get this. So many people from TVG have it.
Hanzo
06-19-2007, 01:12 AM
You guys willing to race for scrilla? I think I'm ready for some action.
FILTHY J NASTY
06-19-2007, 01:20 AM
You guys willing to race for scrilla? I think I'm ready for some action.
Scrilla?
I think we should have a tvg PINK SLIP RACE =] That would be fun
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 02:01 AM
I think hanzo wants to race for REAL money. I will be down for that after a few weeks of practice :)
Where do I go to view the photos I took and uploaded to the site?
Lethal
06-19-2007, 02:43 AM
I think hanzo wants to race for REAL money. I will be down for that after a few weeks of practice :)
Where do I go to view the photos I took and uploaded to the site?
http://forzamotorsport.net/default.htm
Hockeyguy219
06-19-2007, 02:47 AM
Well it was inevitable, but it finally happened. I made the Toronto Maple Leaf Car :D haha It was hard but fun, I think its pretty good. Check the paint job section to have a look and criticize it haha.
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 02:56 AM
How do you design like that? Just pick shapes and stuff and do it yourself, or upload graphics?
xWill.
06-19-2007, 02:58 AM
How do you design like that? Just pick shapes and stuff and do it yourself, or upload graphics?
I'm pretty sure you have to work with the shapes and stuff they give you on the game.
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 03:12 AM
Ahh, how does lethl have nice cars then?
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 04:04 AM
He buys them
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 04:53 AM
Ahh I see.
I chose Asia as my country or whatever, was that a bad choice? I love tuners, but I guess the european class is better or something?
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 05:00 AM
Asia has more choices so you can have a better starting car. I made a big mistake choosing Europe.
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 05:01 AM
So asia was a good choice? I know the MR2 was the fastest, but I am fond of the Sylvia, so I chose that. I want 45k so I can get the Nissan Fairlady Z
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 05:16 AM
Is anyone REALLY good at tuning cars? I have a car that has pretty good statistics but on the track it's a little rusty. I'll pay an expert in TVGs if they can tune my car just right!
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 05:55 AM
I couldnt figure out really how to tune cars even.
steveie
06-19-2007, 02:41 PM
Is anyone REALLY good at tuning cars? I have a car that has pretty good statistics but on the track it's a little rusty. I'll pay an expert in TVGs if they can tune my car just right!
im good at stopping cars over steer but im afriad you do lose some speed becuase of the tuning
vtec236
06-19-2007, 05:24 PM
Is anyone REALLY good at tuning cars? I have a car that has pretty good statistics but on the track it's a little rusty. I'll pay an expert in TVGs if they can tune my car just right!
I'm pretty good, I have an A class Mugen Civic that runs with most S900+ cars! I will hit you up when i get home with some information
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 06:25 PM
I'm pretty good, I have an A class Mugen Civic that runs with most S900+ cars! I will hit you up when i get home with some information
Great! I can't wait to hear from you :)
vtec236
06-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Here is a Great Place to start (http://fm2calc.ruinedmylife.com/)
All you ahve to know is the Weight and the Drivetrain FF, FR,MR AWD This will be a great start and then you can tweak it to what you like
Source Forzamotorsport.net (http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/thread/242646.aspx)
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 09:14 PM
I am really getting into this game, I have the West Wings Customs Honda Civic Hatch, at least I think that is what it is called, I am pussing over 400hp with it, I love it.
I just sold my sylvia fo 8k credits, not tooo bad.
I have gotten 1st in every race, so I changed the diffuculty up to medium, its not much harder. I saw a few of you guys online today, but I had to leave for work.
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks vtec, I found another great tuner that gets in more detail
http://www.mediafire.com/?1nbmxmwi5nt
Thanks to Danhrules
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 09:29 PM
I cant figure out how to tune cars, it lets me change the tire pressure, but thats it.. am I doing something wrong?
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 09:31 PM
You need to buy RACING part upgrades, if all you have are sports and street parts, you can't change the settings.
m1ndless
06-19-2007, 09:57 PM
You need to buy RACING part upgrades, if all you have are sports and street parts, you can't change the settings.
I have alot of the racing things.. but not everything, so I need to have EVERYTHING racing or what?
Hybrid
06-19-2007, 10:10 PM
No, what ever you buy that is labeled "Adjustable" can be tuned in the tuner.
m1ndless
06-20-2007, 12:04 AM
Ahh I see now.
Anyways, here is my car that I have put the most money into, I love it. Its pushing over 400hp. http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5038/a38af5e07b024dd983a54eflf3.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a38af5e07b024dd983a54eflf3.jpg)
Also, my stats on the forza site are not updated.. does it take a while or something? It says no race time or wins or anything, but has my photos...
Hybrid
06-20-2007, 01:23 AM
Does anyone have a design(s) that will sell on the auction house? If you do, I'll pay very good in TVGs. I mean VERY good.
xbx360guy
06-20-2007, 02:40 AM
My Car..I won this at the Auction...Looks cool...
m1ndless
06-21-2007, 05:38 AM
My Honda Civic is up to S900 almost, Its like S858, its pushing 550+ HP now. Too bad I cannot use it in every race!! :lol:
I have a few other cars over 400hp, it sucks though cause I need to buy certain cars for certain races, which pisses me off. I had to buy an elise, cause its light, so I can use it in the flywheel race, for light cars only, and then for the under 150hp race.
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